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        <title>Worship God</title>
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        <description>The 'Worship God' podcasts hosts conversations for worship leaders and teams. </description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <title>Episode 64: What Makes a Good Worship Song?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Pat sit down with Andrew Geddert discuss what features make a song fit for corporate worship.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Andrew Geddert, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>53:36</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Pat sit down with Andrew Geddert discuss what features make a song fit for corporate worship.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 63: Communicating Well as Worship Leaders</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship team members and leaders can grow in their communication as they lead their churches in corporate worship.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>39:13</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship team members and leaders can grow in their communication as they lead their churches in corporate worship.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 62: Should We Sing Songs From Bethel, Hillsong and Elevation?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Lee Brubacher discuss one of the most common questions worship leaders have - should we sing songs from questionable sources like Hillsong or Bethel?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Lee Brubacher, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>44:50</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Lee Brubacher discuss one of the most common questions worship leaders have - should we sing songs from questionable sources like Hillsong or Bethel?</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 61: Cultivating Creativity</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Pat sit down with Patrick Anderson to discuss how we can cultivate the image-bearing quality of creativity in our worship ministries.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Patrick Anderson, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>52:08</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Pat sit down with Patrick Anderson to discuss how we can cultivate the image-bearing quality of creativity in our worship ministries.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 60: Have We ‘Feminized’ Modern Worship?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Pat evaluate the common criticism that much of modern worship music has been &#039;feminized&#039;.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:43</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Pat evaluate the common criticism that much of modern worship music has been &#039;feminized&#039;.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 59: Evaluating Criticism</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how to evaluate criticism when it comes your way.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>41:05</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how to evaluate criticism when it comes your way.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 58: Over-Realized Eschatology in Worship Music</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with Dr. Matthew Westerholm to discuss the influence of over-realized eschatology in our worship music and why it&#039;s a problem.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman, Matthew Westerholm</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>40:43</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with Dr. Matthew Westerholm to discuss the influence of over-realized eschatology in our worship music and why it&#039;s a problem.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 57: Vertical AND Horizontal Worship</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody talk about the disturbing trend of individualistic worship in the corporate gathering, and how we can better bring that horizontal element to the forefront.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2024 15:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>40:18</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody talk about the disturbing trend of individualistic worship in the corporate gathering, and how we can better bring that horizontal element to the forefront.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 56: Good Goals for a New Year</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss some ideas for good goals for your worship team in the New Year.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 15:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:36</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss some ideas for good goals for your worship team in the New Year.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 55: Christmas Hymns Worth Singing More</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Johnny sit down to discuss the Christmas hymns that we need to sing more of at Christmas.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Johnny Markin, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:11</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Johnny sit down to discuss the Christmas hymns that we need to sing more of at Christmas.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 54: Q&#038;A from the Behold Him Worship Conference</title>
                        <description>In this special episode, Pat, Lee, Jody and Rob take questions at the Behold Him Worship Conference that was held on October 21st, 2023.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2023 16:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Lee Brubacher, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:58</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this special episode, Pat, Lee, Jody and Rob take questions at the Behold Him Worship Conference that was held on October 21st, 2023.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 53: Training Your Team</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody are joined by Lee Brubacher as they discuss the importance of training your worship team.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman, Jody Cross, Lee Brubacher</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:30</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody are joined by Lee Brubacher as they discuss the importance of training your worship team.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 52: AI, Acetates, Auto-Tune and Worship</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody are joined by Dr. Johnny Markin to discuss the role of technology like AI, auto-tune, and backing tracks in the worship ministry.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 10:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Johnny Markin, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>40:41</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody are joined by Dr. Johnny Markin to discuss the role of technology like AI, auto-tune, and backing tracks in the worship ministry.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 51: What Makes a Great Worship Vocalist?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what makes a great vocalist on a worship team.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:50</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what makes a great vocalist on a worship team.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 50: Learning From Jesus About Worship</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what we can learn about worship from the example and life of Jesus.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 10:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>27:22</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what we can learn about worship from the example and life of Jesus.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 49: Leading When You’re Not Leading</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship team members can still lead worship when they are in the congregation and not on the worship team.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>34:28</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship team members can still lead worship when they are in the congregation and not on the worship team.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 48: Learning from John the Baptist (Part Two)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what John the Baptist can teach us about celebrity, service and humility.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>33:59</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what John the Baptist can teach us about celebrity, service and humility.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 47: Learning from John the Baptist (Part One)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what John the Baptist can teach us about worship leading.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 10:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:23</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss what John the Baptist can teach us about worship leading.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 46: Common Conflicts in Worship Ministry</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss the most common conflicts that can happen between the Pastor and Worship Leader.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 11:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>40:36</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss the most common conflicts that can happen between the Pastor and Worship Leader.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 45: Common Temptations in Worship Ministry</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss the most common temptations that worship leaders face.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>28:04</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss the most common temptations that worship leaders face.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 44: Worship During The Week</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship leaders can ensure their entire lives are full of worship.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>30:12</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody discuss how worship leaders can ensure their entire lives are full of worship.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 43: Nurturing a Healthy Heart</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Pat discuss how worshippers and worship leaders can nurture a deeper and richer relationship with Christ in 2023.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>45:40</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Pat discuss how worshippers and worship leaders can nurture a deeper and richer relationship with Christ in 2023.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 42: Worship Leading For The Long Haul (feat. Rick Cua)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Jody and Pat sit down with worship leading veteran Rick Cua and discuss doing ministry for the long haul.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rick Cua, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:52</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jody and Pat sit down with worship leading veteran Rick Cua and discuss doing ministry for the long haul.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 41: Emotions vs. Emotionalism</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Pat discuss both the danger and the necessity of emotions in worship.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>40:07</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Pat discuss both the danger and the necessity of emotions in worship.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 40: Show Us Christ!</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody call worship leaders back to a simple vision for their role in the corporate gathering - show us Christ!</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2022 11:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:16</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody call worship leaders back to a simple vision for their role in the corporate gathering - show us Christ!</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 39: Worship in the Early Church (feat. Dr. Michael A. G. Haykin)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Dr. Johnny Markin are joined by Dr. Michael A. G. Haykin to discuss worship in the early patristic era and what modern worship leaders can learn from that era.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 11:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Michael A. G. Haykin, Johnny Markin, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>41:14</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Dr. Johnny Markin are joined by Dr. Michael A. G. Haykin to discuss worship in the early patristic era and what modern worship leaders can learn from that era.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 38: What Can Worship Leaders Learn from David? (feat. Mark Buchanan)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by pastor and author Mark Buchanan, to discuss David and what worship leaders can learn from his life and example.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Mark Buchanan, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>46:06</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by pastor and author Mark Buchanan, to discuss David and what worship leaders can learn from his life and example.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 37: Suffering and the Worship Leader (feat. Brian Doerksen)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with JUNO Award Winner Brian Doerksen, as they discuss the role of suffering in the life of a worship leader. What role does suffering play in our worship? How do we give voice to the suffering of our people when we plan our services? That, and more, on this episode.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2022 10:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Brian Doerksen, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>36:42</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with JUNO Award Winner Brian Doerksen, as they discuss the role of suffering in the life of a worship leader. What role does suffering play in our worship? How do we give voice to the suffering of our people when we plan our services? That, and more, on this episode.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 36: Mentoring The Next Generation (feat. Jerry Heinold)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys are joined by Student Worship Director Jerry Heinold to discuss raising up the next generation of worship leaders.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2022 10:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jerry Heinold, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>44:50</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys are joined by Student Worship Director Jerry Heinold to discuss raising up the next generation of worship leaders.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 35: Worship for Real Life (feat. Brian Doerksen)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with JUNO Award Winner Brian Doerksen, as they discuss songwriting and what it means to write songs that relate to our real experiences as Christians.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Brian Doerksen, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>32:12</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Jody sit down with JUNO Award Winner Brian Doerksen, as they discuss songwriting and what it means to write songs that relate to our real experiences as Christians.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 34: Battling Burnout (feat. Cliff Cline)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Pat, Jody and Rob sit down with Cliff Cline, Worship Pastor at Hope Bible Church in Oakville, ON, to discuss the issue of burnout in ministry.  How can we ensure that we endure for the long haul of ministry? What boundaries do we need to put in place?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Cliff Cline, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>57:24</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Pat, Jody and Rob sit down with Cliff Cline, Worship Pastor at Hope Bible Church in Oakville, ON, to discuss the issue of burnout in ministry.  How can we ensure that we endure for the long haul of ministry? What boundaries do we need to put in place?</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 33: The Songwriter (feat. Paul Baloche)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys are joined by Dove award winning song-writer, Paul Baloche, as they discuss Paul&#039;s process of song-writing, advice on how to co-write songs well, and more.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2022 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Paul Baloche, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:28</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys are joined by Dove award winning song-writer, Paul Baloche, as they discuss Paul&#039;s process of song-writing, advice on how to co-write songs well, and more.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 32: Should Worship Be Spontaneous?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Pat, Jody and Rob discuss the role of spontaneity in worship leading and planning. How much of our worship gatherings should be planned or unplanned? Is spontaneity inherently more Spirit-led? </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>44:48</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Pat, Jody and Rob discuss the role of spontaneity in worship leading and planning. How much of our worship gatherings should be planned or unplanned? Is spontaneity inherently more Spirit-led? </itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 31: Making A Worship Leader (feat. Paul Baloche)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys are joined by song-writer and pastor to worship pastors, Paul Baloche. Paul shares his own story of how the Lord brought him into the worship ministry, and discusses how we can grow in our love for Christ, our passion for worship leading, our heart for shepherding God&#039;s people, and gives advice to young worship leaders.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 12:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Paul Baloche, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>46:30</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys are joined by song-writer and pastor to worship pastors, Paul Baloche. Paul shares his own story of how the Lord brought him into the worship ministry, and discusses how we can grow in our love for Christ, our passion for worship leading, our heart for shepherding God&#039;s people, and gives advice to young worship leaders.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>What’s Coming Up Next?</title>
                        <description>A quick update on what&#039;s coming up next on the Worship God podcast!</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>2:24</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>A quick update on what&#039;s coming up next on the Worship God podcast!</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 30: A Christmas Caution (feat. Dr. Johnny Markin)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Dr. Johnny Markin discuss the Advent/Christmas season, some ways the church can get off track in their planning of Christmas services, and some practical tips for keeping our hope centered on Christ this Christmas.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2021 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Johnny Markin, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:59</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Jody and Dr. Johnny Markin discuss the Advent/Christmas season, some ways the church can get off track in their planning of Christmas services, and some practical tips for keeping our hope centered on Christ this Christmas.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 29: Rediscovering the Lord’s Table (feat. Dr. Johnny Markin)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob and Pat are joined by Dr. Johnny Markin as they discuss the place of the Lord&#039;s Table in Christian liturgy, and how we may need to rediscover again the beauty of the Table.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2021 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Johnny Markin, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>46:10</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob and Pat are joined by Dr. Johnny Markin as they discuss the place of the Lord&#039;s Table in Christian liturgy, and how we may need to rediscover again the beauty of the Table.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 28: Worship Matters (feat. Bob Kauflin) Part 2</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by Bob Kauflin as they discuss how worship leaders can love better, how to graciously remove a team member, and work well with their senior pastor.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Bob Kauflin, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>41:16</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by Bob Kauflin as they discuss how worship leaders can love better, how to graciously remove a team member, and work well with their senior pastor.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 27: How To Come To Church On Time</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody address the issue of congregants coming to church late, and how to graciously encourage punctuality for times of worship.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>39:46</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody address the issue of congregants coming to church late, and how to graciously encourage punctuality for times of worship.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 26: Worship Matters (feat. Bob Kauflin)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by Bob Kauflin as they discuss what the key character lessons are for worship leaders, what songs the church ought to be singing, and the role that technology plays in our gatherings.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Bob Kauflin, Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>37:12</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Rob, Pat and Jody are joined by Bob Kauflin as they discuss what the key character lessons are for worship leaders, what songs the church ought to be singing, and the role that technology plays in our gatherings.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 25: Advice to Aging Worship Leaders</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Jody, Rob, and Pat give some advice to ageing worship leaders. </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>45:52</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jody, Rob, and Pat give some advice to ageing worship leaders. </itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 24: How to Go to Church</title>
                        <description>How should we go to church? Should we prepare to come to worship? If so, how? Pat, Rob, and Jody provide pastoral guidance on preparing ourselves to go to church.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2021 13:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>39:15</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>How should we go to church? Should we prepare to come to worship? If so, how? Pat, Rob, and Jody provide pastoral guidance on preparing ourselves to go to church.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 23: Using Modern Hymns in Worship Services</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Jody, Pat, and Rob discuss using modern hymns in worship services.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 22:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>38:02</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jody, Pat, and Rob discuss using modern hymns in worship services.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 22: Using Hymns in Worship Services</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Jody, Pat, and Rob discuss using hymns in worship services.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
                        <enclosure url="https://media.blubrry.com/3716067/media.thegospelcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/05/19093205/Episode-22.mp3" length="38:19" type="audio/mpeg" />
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                        <itunes:duration>38:19</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jody, Pat, and Rob discuss using hymns in worship services.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 21: Worshiping God a Big God in a Small Church (Part 2)</title>
                        <description>Jody, Pat, and Rob continue to discuss worshipping God in smaller churches.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 13:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
                        <enclosure url="https://media.blubrry.com/3716067/media.thegospelcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/05/19092011/Worship-God-21.mp3" length="41:44" type="audio/mpeg" />
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                        <itunes:duration>41:44</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>Jody, Pat, and Rob continue to discuss worshipping God in smaller churches.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 20: Worshipping a Big God in a Small Church</title>
                        <description>What does worshipping a big God in a small church look like?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:summary>What does worshipping a big God in a small church look like?</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 19: How to Audition a New Worship Team Member</title>
                        <description>How should we audition a new worship team member?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2021 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <itunes:duration>42:25</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>How should we audition a new worship team member?</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 18: Worship Leaders: How to say “No” to Someone Who Wants to Serve</title>
                        <description>How should worship leaders say &quot;no&quot; to someone who wants to serve but is not the right fit for worship ministry?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Rob Brockman, Pat Sczebel</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>34:58</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>How should worship leaders say &quot;no&quot; to someone who wants to serve but is not the right fit for worship ministry?</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 17: Gospel-Shaped Gatherings (Part Three)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, Jody, Rob, and Pat continue to discuss what gospel-shaped gatherings look like. </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jody, Rob, and Pat continue to discuss what gospel-shaped gatherings look like. </itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 16: Gospel-Shaped Gatherings (Part Two)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys continue their discussion on gospel-shaped gatherings.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2021 18:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>36:40</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys continue their discussion on gospel-shaped gatherings.</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 15: Gospel-Shaped Gatherings (Part One)</title>
                        <description></description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 22:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:43</itunes:duration>
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                        <title>Episode 14: Worship in the Desert Place</title>
                        <description></description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:07</itunes:duration>
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                        <title>Episode 13: The Birth of a Worship Song</title>
                        <description>Three worship leaders talk about how to write a worship song. Curious about the process?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <itunes:duration>36:19</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>Three worship leaders talk about how to write a worship song. Curious about the process?</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 12: Practicing Biblical Fellowship</title>
                        <description>How can we practice biblical fellowship with one another?</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>33:52</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>How can we practice biblical fellowship with one another?</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 11: How Should Worship Leaders Choose Songs?</title>
                        <description>How should worship leaders choose songs? And perhaps how should they not do so!</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <itunes:duration>36:03</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>How should worship leaders choose songs? And perhaps how should they not do so!</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 10: How to Handle Criticism</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys talk about how to handle criticism as worship leaders. </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 19:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>33:52</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys talk about how to handle criticism as worship leaders. </itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 9: How Should Worship Leaders Handle Praise</title>
                        <description>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss how to handle praise.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>34:17</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss how to handle praise.</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 8: What Are the Foundations for Worship Ministry?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss the foundations for worship ministry.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>34:31</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss the foundations for worship ministry.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 7: What We Regret Doing as Worship Leaders</title>
                        <description>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss what they regret doing as worship leaders. </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2020 00:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>33:18</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, three worship leaders discuss what they regret doing as worship leaders. </itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 6: The Relationship between the Pastor and Worship Leader (Part 2)</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys continue to talk about the sometimes challenging relationship between the worship leader and the senior pastor.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Jody Cross, Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>33:53</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys continue to talk about the sometimes challenging relationship between the worship leader and the senior pastor.</itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 5: The Relationship between the Pastor and Worship Leader</title>
                        <description>In this episode, the guys talk about the sometimes difficult relationship between the worship leader and the senior pastor. </description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2020 00:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>35:06</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, the guys talk about the sometimes difficult relationship between the worship leader and the senior pastor. </itunes:summary>
                        <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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                        <title>Episode 4: Dealing with Disappointments</title>
                        <description></description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2020 00:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Jody Cross, Rob Brockman</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>31:49</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary></itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 3: What Does It Look like to Worship during a Pandemic?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, we discuss what worship looks like during a pandemic.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration></itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, we discuss what worship looks like during a pandemic.</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 2: How Can Worship Leaders Love Their Congregation during a Pandemic?</title>
                        <description>In this episode, we talk about how worship leaders can love their congregation during a pandemic.</description><!-- change this to Speaker Name -->
                                                                        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Wyatt Graham</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:duration>44:56</itunes:duration>
                        <itunes:summary>In this episode, we talk about how worship leaders can love their congregation during a pandemic.</itunes:summary>
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                        <title>Episode 1: How Can Worship Leaders “Lead” during a Pandemic</title>
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                                                                        <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2020 19:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <itunes:author>Pat Sczebel, Rob Brockman, Jody Cross</itunes:author>
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                        <itunes:summary>In this episode of &#039;Worship God,&#039; three worship leaders discuss how to lead during a pandemic. </itunes:summary>
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